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Topic: explain this to me like i'm five

Started by: namethis

Stavro Arrgolus   Offline  -  Editor, MP3  -  06-19-13 09:53 AM  -  10 years ago
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"Right, stop that, it's filth!"

You're allowed to use bad language in your personal blog (the way I do), but not in the forums. When I get the urge to do so, I usually block some of the word out.

We made quite an effort to make this site family-friendly a few years ago and it's part of what I do to help keep it that way.

All three admins on this site possess the 'magical moderator powers'. As proof of my sincerity, I'm deleting the words in question (thus making this admonition look silly - oh, well). Put them back and I delete the whole post. More can be done, but that's usually reserved for spammers who can't speak English and/or won't listen.

Bill Hicks used to say that people high on pot didn't argue because it was impossible. "Hey, you!...." "Hey, what!...' "Hey...." "Hey.." Not that we advocate that sort of thing...
namethis   Offline  -  Member  -  06-19-13 02:04 AM  -  10 years ago
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oh and FYI

i already have done a few shows


wfmu.org/playlists/shows/31539


i just did not post my shows on madmusic

i post my shows on wfmu.org


i still cant find some songs that i am looking for


thanks
namethis   Offline  -  Member  -  06-19-13 01:42 AM  -  10 years ago
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your right there not that good

thats why it is called demented music

but i still think the most part is the Artist is not that good

and now where back to denis leary song asshole

no one likes the ariest them selfs

when you cant find something on google search

as a mp3 as a bittorrent file or as a nzb file or as zip file on free 4 all

more to life then just youtube

music online like madmusic

is only a blog page

you keep saying copyrights

when you stop and think about it

this hole web page is a copyright

so is it the song that is not good or the Artist is not that good for a person

i will say it is the Artist is not that good for a person

since i cant find it as a bittorrent file

and no ask to play it for the Artist

i just think it is the Artist no one likes

that is only an example for barnes and barnes

there must be over 2000 songs only played 1 time only

and by over 700 Artist most of the songs are by the same Artist

example

barnes and barnes

the lovely sulu

Damaskas

all have about 15 songs each only played 1 time

does this mean the song sucks or the Artist sucks

if you cant find it on a personal web page

that has no copyrights

tell you are found out it is posted

someone like a friend of Damaskas could have made a little story

and posted a zip file of all the songs but no one did that

why i guess no one likes Damaskas

there is more to life then

Making Love In A Subaru

that is probably the good reason

the Artist sucks for a person them selfs

in less the rest of them gets played or posted on a personal web page


thanks
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 05:41 PM  -  10 years ago
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You know, you could become a DJ yourself on Dementia Radio, and as a DJ you would have access to all the songs on the Mad Music Archive. You could then do you OWN show, and play all of the old songs that don't get played.

P.S. There is probably a good reason why they don't get played. They're probably not that good.
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 02:40 PM  -  10 years ago
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See, this is why I can't explain this like you were five years old, because a five year old won't understand it.

A five year old thinks that, any time you are out of money, you just go to the bank and get some more. No explaining of how you can't take out money that you haven't put in will be understood.

I'm not saying the copyright laws in the U.S. are good. I frankly think they are too long, myself.

But they are the law. You can't just decide to ignore the law because you don't agree with it, unless you are willing to pay the consequences.

And since the copyright is owned by either the songwriter or the songwriter's estate, you can demand that these "assholes" post them on YouTube all you like, but they are within their right not to.

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namethis:

thanks

but your missing the point of copyrights

the point is the artiest is the owner at all times

when he or she dies the copyrights are past along to next of kin

if the kids want to post there dad music they could

if wanted to it always up to the artiest

if the artiest goes away then so does the copyright

it goes to the next of kin

if the kids wanted to post it they would

thanks for the links to the pages
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 02:33 PM  -  10 years ago
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Sorry, but you are missing the point of copyrights.

If Microsoft gave away free copies of their software, why would anyone buy it?

And you're wrong. You CAN download it from two web pages. You just can't download it for FREE, which is what you want.

See, that's what copyrights are for, to enable the artist to profit from their efforts.
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 11:56 AM  -  10 years ago
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I note also, that every example you gave was a Barnes & Barnes song.

Here are a couple of websites that have their music:

www.discogs.com/artist/Barnes+%26+Barnes
www.voobaha.com/

Now, I don't know where you actually are, but here in the U.S., copyrights can last 110 years or more. Songs do not automatically enter the public domain at the death of the songwriter (I often wish they did, but they don't). So, your statement about 1971, and whether relatives and friends know if they are alive or not is irrelevant.
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 11:42 AM  -  10 years ago
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Well, again, just because You Tube is your favorite place to search for songs doesn't mean it is everyone's favorite place to look for songs. With more and more people getting internet access, if every song were up on You Tube where you could play it free of charge, why would anyone bother to buy a copy of the song?

A good portion of the time, a song is uploaded onto You Tube not by the artist, but by someone who likes the song.

A lot of these artists are busy people, busy giving concerts, or writing new song, or recording new songs. Most of them have websites that you can visit and download the songs you like from.

Remember, You Tube is not there to bring you the songs you like. Show a little initiative and search a bit more thoroughly, and I'm sure you will find more.
Stavro Arrgolus   Offline  -  Editor, MP3  -  06-18-13 09:36 AM  -  10 years ago
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I believe I can field that. I'm sixty-seven.

Not all foreigners from 'net disreputable' countries (Russia, most of Eastern Europe, most of Africa) mean us harm. Some just love vodka and deep thoughts/questions. But English is a harsh mistress (especially with the vodka), so their efforts come across as what you see. This could explain both the spelling and the time difference.

The location is a little easier. Spammers in Africa often pretend to be in America to keep us (me) from zapping them right away - it doesn't work. Since they don't know of any places in America (even though they have the freaking internet in front of them) they nearly always choose New York as a location - making the miscreants even easier to spot. Idiots.

Of course, since this guy joined the site the year I did, all this might very well not apply in this particular case. I'm in the habit of not questioning those who joined us in the first year too severely - not cynical enough? It certainly describes other examples I've seen here and there.

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Max DeGroot:

If you're five, how did you manage to join when you were minus three years old?

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.

If you're five, how did you manage to spell most words correctly, when you aren't even in Kindergarten? You didn't use spell checker, since that would not have left "artiest" misspelled.

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.

If you're five, what are you doing on the internet at anywhere between 2 AM and 5 AM (assuming you're in North America as most members are)?

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 06:01 AM  -  10 years ago
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Now, assuming that you are NOT five, it should not take much to explain why these songs are not on YouTube.

1. There is this thing called copyright which allows only the copyright holder the ability to decide if their song goes up on YouTube. This accounts for a good number of songs not being there.

2. There are a lot of songs written, every year. A LOT. With so many, it would be quite a chore to put them all up on YouTube, seeing as YouTube is a video displaying website, and most songs don't have videos associated with them.

3. YouTube is not there to provide you with whatever song you desire.

I hope that explains it well enough.
Max DeGroot   Offline  -  Artist  -  06-18-13 05:51 AM  -  10 years ago
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If you're five, how did you manage to join when you were minus three years old?

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.

If you're five, how did you manage to spell most words correctly, when you aren't even in Kindergarten? You didn't use spell checker, since that would not have left "artiest" misspelled.

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.

If you're five, what are you doing on the internet at anywhere between 2 AM and 5 AM (assuming you're in North America as most members are)?

Explain this to me. I'm sixty.

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