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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d The Kahn Man is wise and speaks the truth when he said Dont take what Ken Said to Heart. He Was Only Kidding.
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving.”
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Hey Everyone,
Dont take what ken Said to Heart. He Was Only Kidding. Im not sticking up for him but he does need us. He Was Being Sarcastic. That's The Way he is.
Tyrone Kahn
The Kahn Man
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Why are you people trashing me here and not on my own blog?
The Rev. Zack just nailed me good:
turetzkysyndrome.com
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I had to think about what your saying here.
& I guess I hope your voting for Scary Techno song # 5006 (The Remix) with Michael Hill aka That Guy because you like the song.
& I definately thank you for the support if that is the case.
I definately think David Tanny's radio show is nice because it does seem to give you more chances to get played.
But even though I like David's radio show I don't know whether what he did was right or not.
So I will apogilize for throwing in my 2 cents about his music and whether I think it is fair that he gets people to buy his CDs so they can vote twice or 4 times.
I also think what Dr Demento does is up to him.
I would like to get more exposure on his show but I feel because he has such a high standerd maybe he is making people work harder to get on his show.
About Dr Demento cutting off the streaming well I think maybe it's increasing the volume to his website and also seperating the real fans from those Dr Demento want to bes ?
I mean maybe he doesn't care as much about getting lots of fans as he does about getting real fans.
Also maybe he wants what he is doing to be taken seriously and not just for granted.
The only problem I have is I'm not in a good situation to be a hardcore Dr Demento fan since:
1.my fans don't really get to hear his show, 2.it cost money to listen to it, and 3. if I want to be played on his show I have to send him a CD for free while other DJs are buying my CDs.
I do like Dr Demento for discovering me first and when I have something really big I may still send him a copy but I'm no longer sending him everything and may be sending less and less in the future unless he contacts me and offers to buy stuff.
It's not that I don't want the exposure(even though it is not as much as it was before).
It's more that I'm getting other exposure without having to give away CDs.
Mp3s are easier to pass around by E-mail and since I am making smaller amounts of CDs and it's harder to keep them instock I kind of prefer to sell it to someone that wants to buy it or send the DJ a mp3 but Dr Demento doesn't except mp3s by E-mail does he ?
& Dr Demento makes no promise to play the CD.
So I can only send him a song that I really think he will play.
So I sent him Scum Always rises at the Top at
www.cdbaby.com/cd/artpaul
But I did not plan on sending him Untitled I & II
www.cdbaby.com/cd/artpaul19
and I do not plan on sending him Songs I forgot That the Elephant remembered at www.cdbaby.com/cd/artpaul22
However I did send him some of the Art Paul(The Remix Project)
But I doubt he'll play it.
Still if you feel lead to please request Scary Techno # 5006 (The Remix) with Michael Hill aka That Guy
either on Dr Demento at www.clamhead.com/drd.php
Or on The Mad Music Top 20 at www.dt20.dfsxradio.com
Or request any of the other remixes you might have heard.
--- karlap
To me, getting played 25 times on MMDT20 and 5 times on TMMS (and many more pre-podcast DT20 shows) is a huge step up from getting played once on Dr. Demento, especially since the voter/listeners put Derelict near the top of the chart before I even started plugging it.
DT is forthright about how he is selling extra votes, and I believe he counts the votes fairly (although I have now way of verifying.) He's been doing this for years and entering his own songs, and only won #1 for the first time last year (for What If You Wife Was A Man).
I offer no defense of his r.m.d. posts on Dr. D. and this is not the time for a detailed critique of his songs, other than we all have our vanities as artists, including myself.
Regardless of any controversies, DT provides a great service breaking new and previously unknown or forgotten artists to interested listeners. And I will continue to enthusiastically root for my favorite song during these final ballots of 2007.
Art, take a look at how I got Veronique to to ask her posse of voters (whose strength has been demonstrated in the Halloween contest and the last 3 MMDT20) to vote for Scary Techno in this thread. And I'm voting for Scary Techno with my doubling passwords. I hope you still care about making the top 50.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Demento just doesn't have the listening audience he used to have. With being only on 15 or so small market radio stations, he lost his tremendous listener base he once had. His web site doesn't offer free podcasts, so many users turn to this site for their fix.
I bet you wouldn't believe how many people have signed up here since the start? I don't have the exact numbers, but it's well over 30,000 members.
Unless Demento gets back on large market radio stations or offers free or at least reasonable priced high-quality podcasts, he will likely vanish in '08.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d To me, getting played 25 times on MMDT20 and 5 times on TMMS (and many more pre-podcast DT20 shows) is a huge step up from getting played once on Dr. Demento, especially since the voter/listeners put Derelict near the top of the chart before I even started plugging it.
DT is forthright about how he is selling extra votes, and I believe he counts the votes fairly (although I have now way of verifying.) He's been doing this for years and entering his own songs, and only won #1 for the first time last year (for What If You Wife Was A Man).
I offer no defense of his r.m.d. posts on Dr. D. and this is not the time for a detailed critique of his songs, other than we all have our vanities as artists, including myself.
Regardless of any controversies, DT provides a great service breaking new and previously unknown or forgotten artists to interested listeners. And I will continue to enthusiastically root for my favorite song during these final ballots of 2007.
Art, take a look at how I got Veronique to to ask her posse of voters (whose strength has been demonstrated in the Halloween contest and the last 3 MMDT20) to vote for Scary Techno in this thread. And I'm voting for Scary Techno with my doubling passwords. I hope you still care about making the top 50.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d But Dr Demento doesn't try to sell you real bad recordings he did(Of coarse this is my opinion) and then say if you buy his CDs he'll let your request count double.
--- Marcus Tee
This is nothing new. Dr D has done it MANY times.
Marcus Tee
--- artpaul
But even that is up to him because it's his radio show but still one would question is it fair that he summits his own recordings to his own radio show.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d This is nothing new. Dr D has done it MANY times.
Marcus Tee
--- artpaul
But even that is up to him because it's his radio show but still one would question is it fair that he summits his own recordings to his own radio show.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I knew that would come back and bite me. But I still hold to the statement. If I had any talent at all I would have done the song myself. But I am zippo in singing ability. I am just grateful that you were able to do the song.
Marcus Tee
--- Sick Puppy
Marcus Tee... I had to laugh at what you said about "karaoke versions", considering our recent collaboration.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I'm sorry, but DT's apology in the r.m.d. newsgroup was so shallow and only echoed the words someone asked him to say. He did not mention any remorse for his comments or state that he went beyond a fan asking for change.
If your usenet provider does not have the recent history, go to Google and look up the posts made nearly a month ago.
-Tim
--- DJ Particle
I'm willing to give Tanny another chance. He did post a public apology to the Doc to Usenet (and we know Doc reads it), so he is worthy of another chance in my eyes. :)
--- Sick Puppy
I was hoping I read it wrong.... But I'm still concerned about your view of David Tanny.
DT may not have been justified for what he said, but he did make an apology
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Wait, what did DT do? I think I missed something a while back...
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Even if you start the thread the forum is not yours and it is an open forum and anybody can comment on any thread.
David Tanny accepts mp3s and has supported me by buying several of my CDs so I could only say good things about David Tanny at this time unless you want to talk about the accurency of his top 20 and how he lets people buy votes by buying his CD.
But even that is up to him because it's his radio show but still one would question is it fair that he summits his own recordings to his own radio show.
& what seems to be even more questionable is him giving extra votes to people who buy his CDs.
One would argue that when he wins it's a fixed election.
But otherwise it's a pretty nice radio show which has turned me onto alot of interested songs.
I really like the new strokes portion and also his playing holiday songs.
And since it is free and is a podcast I can go to the internet and listen to it any time and tell my friends about it too.
--- ktguitar
There you go again, Art Paul, hijacking my thread.
If you can't say something bad about DT, don't say anything at all!
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I was hoping I read it wrong.... But I'm still concerned about your view of David Tanny.
DT may not have been justified for what he said, but he did make an apology, which is a reflection of his true character. However, your stated opinion of David Tanny may (in some people's eyes) put you in the same category you attempt to put him into.
Internet dementia podcasters appear to be a tight knit group. Piss off one and you may find yourself boycotted by the others. (I know.... being pissed off is better than being pissed on.)
I love what Art Paul said..... There is some real wisdom.
Marcus Tee... I had to laugh at what you said about "karaoke versions", considering our recent collaboration.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d D.T. rocks! :-)
--- ktguitar
There you go again, Art Paul, hijacking my thread.
If you can't say something bad about DT, don't say anything at all!
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d There you go again, Art Paul, hijacking my thread.
If you can't say something bad about DT, don't say anything at all!
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I don't think we should compare Dr Demento with Captain Wayne or David Tanny.
My view with radio is Make new Friends but keep the old/One is silver the other is gold.
So any radio airplay I get from Dr Demento, Capatin Wayne, David Tanny, Tom(Manic Mondays), Tyrone Kahnman, or dementiaradio.org is great !
I hope people will request Scary Techno song # 5006 (The Remix) with Michael Hill aka That Guy on Dr Demento but if it doesn't get played I hope it keeps being requested on The Mad Music Top 20 because then it might become one of the finale top 50.
Dr Demento did play my song Scum Always Rises at the Top on his show once this year but his listeners don't rerequest my songs on his show like David Tanny's listeners do on the Mad Music top 20.
Capatin Wayne also played my songs 7 times this year so I think it is possible that there is a different audiance here then on Dr Demento but like I said I take any airplay I can get and I do not regret being discovered by Dr Demento in 2001 when he played Have A Peanut Butter Sandwich 5 times.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I am a supporter of almost any other "demented" show than Dr D. He has disappointed me SOOO many times in so many ways. But one thing I can say is he did start out good. He played some really good songs and comedy bits. A great many were high quality. You know, funny stuff that was well written.
I have noticed lately that the current faire is lacking. In a large way. Some of the artists that I see that are still producing quality stuf are: Weird Al, Bob Rivers, groups like The Frantics et al.
I know there are MANY more but look at some of the stuff that's come out recently. People who can't sing, write or play music. It's sad that music (and not just novelty music) has suffered from such poor quality. I think I blame the Net. If there was less accessibility there would be better quality. But as it is, everyone with a microphone can have his music played on a dozen different shows. You don't even have to play your own music. Just take a karaoke version, add your singing and Viola! You're a star.
Sure it's great for individuals who would love to break into some form of entertainment, but realistically it's just not feasible that everyone is going to make it big.
Don't get me wrong, I am grateful that Wayne allows some newcomers a chance to shine. But there are some who have done dozens of songs (some that have been played on these shows) that are terrible. I won't name names. And sure it's difficult to create quality when you're working on a shoestring budget, but c'mon.
Maybe it's just the times we live in. I realize things change, but I long for the days of Quality over Quantity.
Marcus Tee
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d I'm willing to give Tanny another chance. He did post a public apology to the Doc to Usenet (and we know Doc reads it), so he is worthy of another chance in my eyes. :)
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Dude. It's a joke!
Except for DT. I am so done with him!
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Perhaps I didn't read this right.... Are you suggesting that the podcasts supported here are simply "pretenders and upstarts" and their hosts "lesser demented imitators"?
Perhaps you should be reminded that a huge portion of the community here is made up of fans that went looking elsewhere for dementia after the Doctor Demento Show was (often by Demento's own policies) discontinued in their respective areas. Shows such as the Mad Music Show successfully fill a void that the Doctor has vacated.
I'm not denying that you need Demento's support, but you need the support of the podcasters just as much. Don't forget that Doctor Demento is still losing radio stations, but Captain Wayne (and others like him) continues to gain new listeners.
--- ktguitar
But all you need to know, really, is that it's time for more mad music and crazy comedy, requiring no further association with copycat podcasters and Web radio hosts. That is, until I need them again.
Speaking of pretenders and upstarts, let me at this point mention that I'll Get Old And Die first appeared September 4 on the inaugural Kahn Man's Comedy Corner podcast.
Tyrone featured my song again on his current Getting Older edition. To date, the six episodes of KMCC have logged 941 downloads.
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fjrigjwwe9r2threads:MessageText fiogf49gjkf0d Return to Demento: There's nothing like the real thing
 It's been more than a year since one of my songs last appeared on The Dr. Demento Show, and during that time I've been compelled, in the interest of comedy music survival, to grovel before his lesser demented imitators.
That strategy, however humiliating, served its purpose, keeping me afloat until the Doc played I'll Get Old And Die in the third segment of his Thanksgiving 2007 show.
Cleverly, Dr. D inserted my song as an endpiece for an obscure National Lampoon Radio Hour bit in which a fake Al Jolson delivers a tribute to his dead Vaudeville pal.
But all you need to know, really, is that it's time for more mad music and crazy comedy, requiring no further association with copycat podcasters and Web radio hosts. That is, until I need them again.
Speaking of pretenders and upstarts, let me at this point mention that I'll Get Old And Die first appeared September 4 on the inaugural Kahn Man's Comedy Corner podcast.
Tyrone featured my song again on his current Getting Older edition. To date, the six episodes of KMCC have logged 941 downloads.
The thing to do now is visit Dr. Demento's request page and ask him to play more I'll Get Old And Die.
While you're there, request another of my popular recent tunes, Fly Me To The Moon!
Demented again:  (1:09).
turetzkysyndrome.com
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